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  • WTH?! 1700 rear valve cover bolts won't clear frame??

    Tried to adjust my valves this afternoon, but I can't remove the rear cylinder valve cover, because the two rear valve cover bolts hit the frame when trying to pull them out. I never had this problem on my 1600... So what's the trick? I can get them about 95% of the way out but that's it. I even tried pulling the cover with the two bolts still in but they won't clear the head. I'm at a loss here and would appreciate the help.
    Last edited by Doc_V; 06-12-2018, 08:56 PM.

  • #2
    According to my Clymers you should be able to

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    • #3
      Click image for larger version  Name:	 Views:	1 Size:	68.5 KB ID:	23909 There are 3 different length bolts for a reason, seems someone may have used the wrong length in the back holes.

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      • #4
        Thanks Roadiemort, that photo is helpful; I was wondering why two of the bolts had sealant on them. [I only have the 1600 service manual.]

        Im beginning to wonder if the motor was pulled at some point, and whoever put it back together, mixed up the bolts.
        Last edited by Doc_V; 06-12-2018, 09:17 PM.

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        • #5
          So you going to cut them and replace?

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          • #6
            Is there enough room to cut or saw them off, then remove them and replace them with shorter ones?




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            • #7
              Just lift them up and bring them out along with the cover. Done it several times. Stop it Lance! Your tinkeritis is gonna mess up this bike too!
              “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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              • Doc_V
                Doc_V commented
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                "Just lift them up and bring them out along with the cover." ...Tried that, it didn't work, they get hung upon on the head.

            • #8
              Cutting had crossed my mind. It was my front cylinder that was making all the noise, turns out the exhaust valve was way out of adjustment. Fortunately the intake needed no adjustment. So I'm just going put it back together and hope for the best... If it's quiet now, I'll leave it be. ...Otherwise, yah, I guess I'll have to cut them.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Doc_V View Post
                "Just lift them up and bring them out along with the cover." ...Tried that, it didn't work, they get hung upon on the head.
                I have a 1700 FI. If you pull them too high, they will catch the frame. Just lift them height enough to clear the head. If not, maybe the wrong bolts were put in.
                “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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                • #10
                  the tech at power sports of Rock Hill, SC told me when they do the valve adjustment the drop the engine to remove the bolt and keep from scratching the chrome covers. Anybody heard of this?

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                  • #11
                    Whoa wait a second. If you cut the old ones out how will you get the new ones in if they hit the frame??

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                    • roadiemort
                      roadiemort commented
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                      Go back to bed then get up again and read the whole thread carefully looking and reading the pics also, take two aspirin and try again, lol.

                    • Jclevesque
                      Jclevesque commented
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                      Ok Mort sorry man I looked at the pic and did read the other comments....someone must of been in there before. Would of the engine had to have been pulled to mix the bolts up like that?

                    • Jaybo
                      Jaybo commented
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                      You cut the head of the bolts off to give yourself a little clearance to get the cover off. After it is off, vice grip the rest of the bolt out.

                  • #12
                    Originally posted by NCB View Post
                    the tech at power sports of Rock Hill, SC told me when they do the valve adjustment the drop the engine to remove the bolt and keep from scratching the chrome covers. Anybody heard of this?
                    Sure they do.....then they can charge you more!
                    “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by Jclevesque View Post
                      Whoa wait a second. If you cut the old ones out how will you get the new ones in if they hit the frame??
                      You put the correct length bolts back in the correct holes and it will work like a charm

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                      • #14
                        mine was pretty tight too but i finally got it out without cutting anything lol
                        my Wallet is Getting dangerously close to spontaneous combustion

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                        • #15
                          You da man Steve! ...It took a while, but with Shores assurance it would work, I managed to wiggle the cover around until I got one screw clear and pulled it out. After that the second one was a lot easier. Sure is a lot more of a pain than the 1600 though.

                          I'm glad I did it because the rear exhaust was also beyond spec. Bike runs better now but I'm still getting an intermittent knocking on throttle at certain RPMs or under load. It's not a normal sound either, my 1600 didn't do it, I'm wondering if it might be the rocker arm shafts. I just hope to God it's not a bearing issue...

                          Anyway, thanks all, this is why I love this place. I can always count on the RSC to come through!

                          Cheers all.


                          Doc_V
                          Last edited by Doc_V; 06-13-2018, 11:42 PM.

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                          • #16
                            Originally posted by Doc_V View Post
                            You da man Steve! ...It took a while, but with Shores assurance it would work, I managed to wiggle the cover around until I got one screw clear and pulled it out. After that the second one was a lot easier. Sure is a lot more of a pain than the 1600 though.

                            I'm glad I did it because the rear exhaust was also beyond spec. Bike runs better now but I'm still getting an intermittent knocking on throttle at certain RPMs or under load. It's not a normal sound either, my 1600 didn't do it, I'm wondering if it might be the rocker arm shafts. I just hope to God it's not a bearing issue...

                            Anyway, thanks all, this is why I love this place. I can always count on the RSC to come through!

                            Cheers all.


                            Doc_V
                            That’s good news Lance! Now try to get a torque wrench in to do the last three bolts! Mine is noisy as hell. The solution is silicone ear plugs. You install them in those two holes on either side of your CPU. Smooths it out to a nice deep rumble.
                            “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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                            • #17
                              A knock? I wonder if a nut may have gotten sucked in the intake and is rolling around on top of the piston???







                              I know. I shouldna otta done it, but I did.

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                              • #18
                                Originally posted by SKWEARpeg View Post
                                A knock? I wonder if a nut may have gotten sucked in the intake and is rolling around on top of the piston???







                                I know. I shouldna otta done it, but I did.
                                Doh!

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                                • #19
                                  It stemmed from another member being paranoid about a rattle in his motor, he’d pretty well convinced himself it had to of injested something.

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                                  • #20
                                    LOL... I hope he feels better now. After 7 years and two R*s, I'm pretty familiar with all the noises these bikes make. But there's the normal R* rattle and not so normal. If it's not causing any damage, I'm fine with that, but like many who are annoyed by the headlight bucket rattle, it's pretty annoying. Hopefully adding some tunes will help drown in out.

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