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    I got ready to leave this morning after a breakfast run and I just got a click with the starter button. I rocked the bike back in gear - no help so the starter wasn't in a bad spot. I was getting ready to remove the side panel and bridge the contacts when I tried it twice more and it started on the second try. This has never happened in 20+ years and I'm thinking the relay is bad. It is the original relay. I have tried it several times since I got home and it turns over every time. It couldn't have been any of the safety switches or the relay wouldn't have clicked. Anyone here experienced this?
    Scott B.

  • #2
    I have never experienced it on my bike but have seen that happen on other vehicles many times. Especially the old Fords. It sounds like you are on the right track with thinking relay. Bad part is that as long as it is working there is really no way to check it because it will appear as if it is good. About the only other thing you could do if you want to eliminate others things is to check and clean the starter button switch and check/clean/tighten cable connections.

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    • texasscott1
      texasscott1 commented
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      All of the connections are tight and the starter switch is okay I think because it clicked every time I pushed it and it just takes a light touch. I think I'll go ahead and order a relay. Thanks.

  • #3
    1 Thing for sure that after all those years and still being the original relay you got alot of service from it.

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    • texasscott1
      texasscott1 commented
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      Those years are beginning to worry me a little, all of the electrical stuff on the bike is original. With the exception of the headlight all of the bulbs are original. Now I take that back, I had to replace the tank sending unit and the speedometer.

  • #4
    Have you checked the starter brush plate? They are known to crack at the 90 degree bends and will continue to work intermittently for some time while broken. At the very least I would pull the starter apart and have a look, parts are available to repair.

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    • #5
      I had it apart not that long ago, polished the commutator and lubed the end plate. If I understand that condition correctly there will be a load at the starter even if the piece is broken. There was no load when this happened.
      Scott B.

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      • daveto
        daveto commented
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        When apart did you have the brushes and mounting tab removed? I couldn’t see mine broken until I took it apart and had 3 separate pieces.

      • texasscott1
        texasscott1 commented
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        No I didn't but when I removed and reinstalled the armature there was no movement when I compressed each brush. Everything was tight. I seem to remember reading that when that piece was broken the starter would at least try to work. In my situation the starter made no noise whatsoever. The only noise was the loud click from the relay. I wish I had gotten the chance to bridge the terminals on the relay then I would have known for sure. Meanwhile the cheapest OEM relay I can find is $53 so I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet.

        When it finally did start the starter spun at its normal speed and the engine kicked off after about 1 revolution.

        Thanks for your help.

    • #6
      I’m sure after 20 years if passing decent current to the starter through those contacts in the relay, they have seen better days.

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      • #7
        It could keep working until it stuck leaving me rushing to try and disconnect the battery. I had already decided that if that ever happened I would leave the engine running so the starter wouldn't be pulling a big load and overheating until I could disconnect.
        Scott B.

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        • davej
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          good idea. Might keep it from burning.

        • Spydr
          Spydr commented
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          Originally posted by texasscott1 View Post
          It could keep working until it stuck leaving me rushing to try and disconnect the battery.
          Been there, Done that! Early this year, in fact!

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