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    So after fucking with my wires to find out why the bike won t crank, I decided it's time to pull the starter. I disconnected the wires pulled the two bolts mounting the starter and started pulling and tuggin. After two hours.....nothin. As my only day off for a while I decided I needed to make progress. So I started taking it apart while still attached to see what the hang up is possibly. I'm definitely getting a new starter but the copper armature won t come out, I'll post a pic. it's moves back and fourth about a 1/4 of an inch and it will spin with some resistance. Any ideas why she won't budge or am I just a dummy?
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  • #2
    Here's a link to a manual free download!

    https://sites.google.com/site/tykesp...idemobile=true

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    • #3
      Anything I work on a get a manual for, I already removed the two mou ting bolts
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      • #4
        Push wiggle turn repeat

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        • #5
          Everything on this diagram from 1-10 is still on the bike, it won't budge out of the case
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          • #6
            I would remount the case #16 to gain the ability to wiggle the entire starter and remove #4..

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            • #7
              The armature won’t slide out, because there is a circlip (1) that holds the starter gear on the shaft.

              Realize that the starter has been sitting in the same place for probably 18 years and you’ll need to use some penetrating oil back there and just wiggle, coax and pull till that crusty bond lets go.

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              • Darkkill57
                Darkkill57 commented
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                Sitting in the Same spot for 19 years i believe

            • #8
              Perhaps some gentle persuasion with a dead blow hammer might be in order.


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              • #9
                Drumsonly2002 has the best solution. Reassemble it for better leverage to wiggle the complete starter out first.

                The area circled in green is where 19 years of crud on the aluminum has built up between the starter housing and engine case and I’m sure that big o ring is harder than Chinese arithmetic. Soak it good with a penetrant and it’ll take some coaxing to get it out.

                PS

                Ditch the AIS. It’s in the way.

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                • Darkkill57
                  Darkkill57 commented
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                  AIS? Does that stand for air induction system?

                • Makriluc
                  Makriluc commented
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                  Yes it does

              • #10
                Reassemble penetrating oil and heat and twisting and tappping small hammer tiny

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                • #11
                  I am or was about to take my starter out and rebuild it. Seems to turn slower than it should. So I ordered a kit without looking at what was on the bike assuming it was stock. Well it is a Ricks starter. Not sure what to do. For the price of a Ricks rebuild kit i could almost buy a new starter. Or I could get a used one on Ebay and use the rebuild kit I already have. But It should come out easy having been replaced.

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                  • Bikerron
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                    Wait, and compare the brushes in the kit with what’s in the starter. Probably work. Over time, other than a commutator polishing and brushes, these starters just need a good cleaning and bearings repacked more than anything.

                  • Brian Schenk
                    Brian Schenk commented
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                    good idea

                  • Brian Schenk
                    Brian Schenk commented
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                    I went ahead and ordered a starter. Guessing it is rebuilt from Walmart of all places. 94 dollars. Will pull the Ricks off and take a look at it see if any of the kit can be used. Will have one to hang on the wall of misery just in case I need it.

                • #12
                  also carefully inspect the brass brush holder(in the brush kit)( the brushes are attached to it with a wire , its like C shaped) inside the starter, over time the 90 degree bends crack from the factory, and get weaker, and carry less current. i replaced mine with new OEM, and they failed a tear later. so i replaced with after market (with a slight mod). i got almost a year out of the OEM, but IM on year 2 or 3 on the aftermarket set

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                  • #13
                    Well after half a bottle of liquid wrench and some gentle lovin persuasion, she came out, now where would you fine folk suggest buyin a new starter from XD

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                    • Brian Schenk
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                      I just got one from Walmart . I would not suggest one of the expensive Ricks starters. I just took mine apart and it is just a stock starter with a fancy billet end cover with Ricks on it. The stock rebuild kit worked perfect in it. Now I have 2, a spare.

                  • #14
                    Alright thanks for all the help guys , now on to other shi t that's broke on the dam thing

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                    • #15
                      from Walmart came a few days early
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                      • #16
                        is that a chinese aftermarket starter? id ruther have a used OEM ebay one with these torquemonsters

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                        • Brian Schenk
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                          not for nothing but Yamaha has a factory in china. They produce bikes and parts. I would guess original starter is from there.

                      • #17
                        Definitely curious to hear how the Chinese Walmart starter works/holds up, please give us a status report on that item.
                        2012 Road Star Silverado S

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                        • #18
                          ha yeh curious myself. I rebuilt the Ricks one on it and it works ok. May throw the Walmart one on just to make sure it works. It is a rebuilt, from Cycles R Us. some big salvage yard.

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