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    So I finally decided that after many years of putting up with my factory rear shock "performance", I contacted Smokescreens to discuss the Roadwing. Decided pretty quickly that I would order one from him, complete with the RAP. Placed the order and had the parts in hand very quickly. I was quite pleased with the quality that Jason put into the conversion and proceeded to procrastinate for a couple of weeks! Finally replaced the shock and aside from repacking the bearings, and doing a good cleaning of the bits off my bike, the install went very smoothly. I took the beast out for a quick shake-down to ensure everything was performing as it should, and noticed an immediate improvement in the quality of ride! Thanks again to Smokescreens for continuing to produce quality items for these bikes. I highly recommend those who haven't yet upgraded their bikes to do so, talk to Smokescreens! I mounted the RAP below the left cover for now. It is easy to adjust on the fly and is not in the way of anything(unless i go with duals, then...). Very pleased customer...Joe

  • #2
    I haven't heard of a single person who has installed one say that it was a bad thing. The next thing you'll notice is how bad the front suspension is. That should be your next upgrade.
    Peace,
    Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
    (But you can call me Joe)

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    • #3
      I've had mine for a while. Posts like this almost make me want to swap in the stock shock for while just so I can re-appreciate the Roadwing. Almost, but not quite.
      Manuals, Roadwing, other stuff
      PGR
      PGT MT

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      • #4
        I think I tossed my stock shock. Who would want one when the Roadwing is cheaper!?
        Peace,
        Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
        (But you can call me Joe)

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        • #5
          I'm somewhat new to the group and ive been reading alot of posts with people saying they've upgraded to the roadwing suspension, what exactly is the purpose for this upgrade? Does it make for a better ride, softer, harder or does it raise or lower the bike? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated because it seems that it's the upgrade to make, i was just wondering why, tha ks in advance.

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          • Smokescreens
            Smokescreens commented
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            the biggest thing you will notice is a massive ride quality improvement. no more of the feeling like your not solidly planted to the road. it is a more firm ride and will "slightly" give you more ground clearance thanks to the firmer spring over the road stars failure of a shock. another huge benefit to the road wing is tool less preload changes that also dont require you to lay on the filthy ground and bust up your knuckles. i am the guy on this forum that does the roadwings for people here and i happen to have one on hand with the rap (remote operated preload)

        • #6
          It's a better shock with hydraulic preload adjustment (RAP or electric motor). The shock is harvested from a Honda Goldwing and modified to fit the Roadstar. Much better ride.
          Peace,
          Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
          (But you can call me Joe)

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Ace View Post
            So I finally decided that after many years of putting up with my factory rear shock "performance", I contacted Smokescreens to discuss the Roadwing. Decided pretty quickly that I would order one from him, complete with the RAP. Placed the order and had the parts in hand very quickly. I was quite pleased with the quality that Jason put into the conversion and proceeded to procrastinate for a couple of weeks! Finally replaced the shock and aside from repacking the bearings, and doing a good cleaning of the bits off my bike, the install went very smoothly. I took the beast out for a quick shake-down to ensure everything was performing as it should, and noticed an immediate improvement in the quality of ride! Thanks again to Smokescreens for continuing to produce quality items for these bikes. I highly recommend those who haven't yet upgraded their bikes to do so, talk to Smokescreens! I mounted the RAP below the left cover for now. It is easy to adjust on the fly and is not in the way of anything(unless i go with duals, then...). Very pleased customer...Joe
            That is exactly the same position I mounted my RAP. I too thought the idea of being able to adjust on the fly was pretty cool but, after getting it dialed in to where it works best for me , I haven't even thought of it being there. Still very easy to adjust if I put a big load on for a long trip.

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            • #8
              Doesn't the adjustable preload also give you the advantage of easily adjusting the preload if you're riding 2 up or 2 up and loaded down with gear as opposed to riding solo w/o gear?
              2012 Road Star Silverado S

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              • BubbaKahuna
                BubbaKahuna commented
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                Yes, but it's so much better than stock that in order to routinely adjust it you'd probably be need to really be loading the bike heavy.
                The GW shock used for the conversion is designed for a bike MUCH heavier than a Roadstar.

            • #9
              my question is pros/cons to RAP vs. electric motor adjustment, installation and operation wise.
              2012 Road Star Silverado S

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              • #10
                My other question is, what is the load rating of the roadwing? According to my owners manual i'm not supposed to exceed approx. 390 lbs total load with the stock shock. So if rider and passenger are both 200+ lbs you are already past capacity w/o any gear. I see pics here on the forum of members riding 2 up with gear (don't know the weight of the riders though). Is it dangerous to exceed the rated load? The other part of the equation is tire capacity, what is total load capacity of the tires?
                2012 Road Star Silverado S

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by D-Fresh View Post
                  Doesn't the adjustable preload also give you the advantage of easily adjusting the preload if you're riding 2 up or 2 up and loaded down with gear as opposed to riding solo w/o gear?
                  Yes
                  Peace,
                  Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
                  (But you can call me Joe)

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by D-Fresh View Post
                    my question is pros/cons to RAP vs. electric motor adjustment, installation and operation wise.
                    The RAP is generally easier to install. The electric pump will also give you the ability to have a display that tells you the percentage of preload.
                    Peace,
                    Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
                    (But you can call me Joe)

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                    • #13
                      2003 Honda Goldwing:

                      The 2003 owners manual says:

                      Dry weight: 791 lbs (798 lbs with ABS)

                      Weight Capacity: 417 lbs (425 lbs Canada) - for rider, passenger, all cargo and accessories

                      Cargo Capacity:
                      Travel trunk: 20 lbs
                      Each saddlebag: 20 lbs
                      Each fairing pocket: 4.5 lbs
                      Each trunk side pocket: 1 lbs
                      Total of all cargo: 71 lbs


                      I think they are all under rated due to safety and CYA

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                      • #14
                        the standard spring on the road star is 728lbs the standard spring on the roadwing is 840lbs so its a pretty good bump up on the load rating. you can do a spring upgrade to it as well but normally its not needed. the factory shocks weakest link is the dampener. its so soft thatit lets the shock fully colasp so fast that you can hit the bottom out bumper very easy and its almost a regular thing on a 2 up ride on a bump. when you hit the bottom out bumper its a harsh hit that can make it feel like you knocked a tooth filling loose lol.

                        if you use the right tires (mostly the correct size or one step bigger) and have a good suspension i wouldnt worry so much about overloading your ride. and the preload adjustment is to compensate for a fluctuating load such as solo and two up riding and travel gear or just bee bopping around town.
                        my Wallet is Getting dangerously close to spontaneous combustion

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                        • #15
                          Thanks everyone for answering my questions.

                          Cheers
                          2012 Road Star Silverado S

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                          • #16
                            Smokescreens roadwing puts the stock shock to shame. No more bottoming out, and the overall ride and confident stability makes it the best upgrade you can do.

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                            • #17
                              Since i just got my bike recently that upgrade will have to wait for a bit but sounds like it needs to be on my list. The front suspension is in need of an upgrade as well. It seems odd that the rest of the bike is pretty solid (barring some caveats) but the suspension is definitely not up to par.
                              2012 Road Star Silverado S

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                              • BigPainRing
                                BigPainRing commented
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                                As is the case on a great many motorcycles. Of my four motorcycles the only one I have not had to improve the suspension on is the Ducati. It came with premium suspension front and rear.

                            • #18
                              I had a Progressive 465 or 495 one my 07 can.t remember now.

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                              • #19
                                Geez, I must be doing something wrong. Me over 270 pounds, and a stock '03 Silverado and I have yet to bottom out either the front or rear end on this thing. I did on my Intruder but that was because the P.O. cut the stock springs shorter!
                                "Do or do not, there is no try."

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                                • BigPainRing
                                  BigPainRing commented
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                                  Maybe the roads you ride are smoother than most? Maybe you ride more conservatively than most? Stock suspension would not bottom out on me if I took it easy and dodged the big bumps but it was so squishy that the bike kind or wallowed or hobby horsed around curves and was not very confidence inspiring to say the least.

                              • #20
                                Installed the Roadwing a couple years back. Did not install the electric pump or rap. The only mod I have done that I enjoy more is my Ultimate seat set.

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