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  • 2004 1700 smoothbore carb mod

    hi again all , have a used smoothbore carb and air intake on its way , can anyone tell me if the new jets i ordered for my standard carb will fit the new one , carb being changed due to float bowl crack and this turned up at right price

  • #2
    Please post a pic or a link to what carb you purchased.

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    • #3
      I’m thinking HSR42.

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      • dustybin
        dustybin commented
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        just looked it up and yes your spot on sir

    • #4
      Define, "smoothbore carb". What type and model number?

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      • dustybin
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        its turning up tuesday or wednesday , will take photos and and post as much as possible , thanks in advance all ty

    • #5
      If you are talking about an HSR 42 or 45 the main jet will interchange and the pilot jet will not. The pilot jet for the OEM carb is a little longer and will smash/bend on the end when you tighten it down They won't be the correct size for the new HSR carb so it won't really matter anyway. Download a copy of the HSR tuning manual, it will help you to better understand the tuning procedure difference between the 2 carbs. The HSR uses different size needles to get to your final tune. There are 3 needles to choose from. To cut thru the chase maybe just ask the question here to see what jetting setup someone else with you mods is using on there HSR carb.

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      • dustybin
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        ty dave your a star , soon as it arrives i will check out the internals and take a few before and after pics of my ride , keep safe guys

    • #6
      carb turned up , its a hsr42 , it has at present a 175 main jet , i fitted it to bike with hyper charger and ran terrible , swapped the hyper charger for a cone , still ran terrible lumpy ,coughing and spluttering , and back firing on down revs , i have long straight vance and hines pipes , and will be using the cone (two hyper chargers up for grabs if anyone wants a trade and stock seats as that is now changed also) , got a rebuid kit on its way so will be stripping down , any advice always welcomed

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      • #7
        That main is WAY too big in a Road Star. If you tell these guys what needle is in it they will tell you if you need to change the needle, but most land at a 165 on the main, so it's soggy as shit. Also, the HSR tuning manual is a free download. Another tip on the flat slide HSR that is different than the stock CV carb is that the mixture screw is managing air, not fuel, so clockwise is richer (reducing the air bleed) and counterclockwise is leaner (adding more air to the idle mix)


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        • dustybin
          dustybin commented
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          ty , when i strip the carb i will post all whats in there , and ty again

      • #8
        i have a hsr42 , i will be trying when the rebuild kit turns up 165 main jet , i need to order the needle and pilot jets , i have vance and hines long pipes and a cone fitted , if anyone could give me a heads up on the needle and pilot i would very much appreciate so i can order in advance of the rebuild kit turning up , also a friend has told me i will need a new power commander due to not using stock carb etc , any help would be greatefully received

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        • #9
          If you use the TPS, than you won't need a different ECU.
          I suggest that you use the TPS, because it sends a signal to the ECM that control the timing advance.

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          • dustybin
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            hmmmmm , correct me if i wrong , but i think the tps was on the old carb not the hsr42 , i still have a lot of reading up to do , so forgive me if i wrong

          • dustybin
            dustybin commented
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            sorry to bombard you duke , i am wanting to eventually get higher revs and release her full potential with a little pencil cell also , if i change the ecu to a 3000 would i get the best out of it with a vacume or would i still need the tps , again sorry to bombard

        • #10
          Yes, the HSR will need a bracket to add the TPS onto it.
          A lot of Roadies run the TPS, but you have to make a mounting bracket or have to send the carb out for this mod. I have built several of these brackets.
          Some of the Roadies use a vacuum switch that tricks the ECM into full retard or full advance.
          I like the TPS because 95% of my riding is cruising and the ignition timing is close to where it needs to be.

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          • #11
            hmmm just read a post on the hsr tps brackets etc on here from earlier in the year , looks like i gotta make or aquire the bracket , if anyone can show me the way to a page with the bracket made up i will have a go building one or arranging one built , i here you alll in the tps discussion , would a new power commander make the timing better or would it hinder the timing , ie just low or high , pros and cons please people , i am used to four cylinder jap engines , tyming advancers etc never been a one for to much tech in bikes , hence sticking with carb modles . was even looking at getting rid of clocks and having more simple clocks on cowl i waiting to fabricate

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            • Duke
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              I use the Dyna 3000 because I'm running the JE pistons, approximately 10 to 1 compression and having to retard the timing a little. You don't need a programmer if you haven't changed the cams or pistons. If your wanting to play with the timing or raise the RPM limit, you might want to think about one then.

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            This is how I have mounted the TPS on the HSR42.

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            • #13
              your a star , will get the old carb out tomorrow eve and take a closer look ty again

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                • dustybin
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                  nice ride , to much bling for me but nice , i will attempt to show my battle scarred girl later once work is finished

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