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  • Hugo Stiglitz

    If you happen to have seen my thread on my other RoadStar, PornStache, you may recall that the original PornStache was a 2002 RoadStar 1600. I found the bike on Cincinnati CL and should have known it was a shady deal from the start. The dude I bought it from wasn't the owner of the bike, it was already signed and notarized by someone else. The bike was much rougher than the pictures showed and smoked pretty good. But I had wanted a RoadStar for 7 years prior and am also a glutton for punishment, so I bought it anyway. Mistake #1. Mistake #2 was taking it for a ride when I got home without changing the fluids (I checked them, but didn't change them). Long story short, the motor seized. So I was forced to buy another RoadStar, which took this one's place as PornStache.

    So this one has been sitting in the sunroom like a giant turd, constantly reminding me of my bad decisions. I love the newer, bigger motor that PornStache (2005 1700) has, so I decided to buy one of those off eBay and do an engine swap on this one. The new motor doesn't come with the trans, but it seems the 1700 motor will mate up to the 1600 "transmission". If that all works out, I plan to make a swingarm chop out of this one.
    Just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.

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    . . . aaaaaand it's not letting me post pictures. This is the error I am getting:


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    • #3
      I have been looking around the site for a thread on removing/replacing the motor. I found several threads of dudes that removed the motors, but didn't show how.
      Are you guys aware of a thread or Youtube video? If not, is there any advice that might make it a little easier?
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      • #4
        Lay the bike down on its side, remove the engine bolts and lift the frame off the engine. DK what side works best.

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        • GreasySam
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          Okay, thanks man!

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        • #6
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          • #7
            These are just some dry fitting pics. I will be chopping the rear fender.
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            • #8
              I completed the engine swap. I replaced the 1600 with the 1700. I kept the same transfer case. I haven't fired it up yet, been too busy with work and other stuff. The only thing I needed to complete the swap was the top engine mount for the 1700. Everything else matched up. I laid the bike on the right side to remove the old motor. Attempted to do it from the side to put the motor back in, but I couldn't get the motor to line up with the mounts while it's on the ground. So, I put the bike back up on the kickstand. I picked the motor up by hand and put it into the frame from the right side. Needless to say, this motor is very heavy, about 250 lbs. This would be much easier with an engine hoist or something similar if you have it. Much to my pleasant surprise, the motor went in to the mounts quite easily (once I got it into the frame).
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              • #9
                I have wanted a springer front end forever. Of course, being a Jap bike guy, my options were extremely limited. I know the DNA springer would be a much easier option, but I'm not really a fan of the aesthetics of the DNA springers (no offense to anyone that has one). I love the look of the vintage Harley springers. Throttle Addiction sells a vintage Harley repop springer. I knew it would be difficult to make it work on the RoadStar since you are trying to mate an imperial sized stem into a metric sized neck. Once I got it and was able to look everything over, I figured out a solution. My idea involved whittling some of the top clamp nut and also part of the top clamp, ordering different bearings, and having a sleeve machined to help adapt from imperial to metric. I took my idea to a machine shop that has done work for me in the past. He was able to do everything that I asked. I just got everything back and put it on the bike, it fits! I was able to mount everything up and it feels solid. Of course the real test will be when I actually get it out on the road. I expected there to be numerous challenges with putting the springer on, and there is. It's all mounted up and runnable, however because the neck of the bike is so wide and the legs of the springer are so narrow, it limits the turning radius. Once I cut off the steering stop on the neck and also trim down the steering stops on the springer I will have more travel, but I may have to also look at a solution to make the neck area a little more narrow.

                It's too cold outside to mess with it right now, but once I get time to pull the front end back apart, I will take some pictures to show how I converted the springer to fit.
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                • #10
                  Looking and sounding very cool. Keep the updates coming. Thanks for sharing.
                  Life is short, eat dessert first----Unknown

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                  • Jaybo
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                    isn't it time for a update on your project Mike?

                  • MikeyC
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                    I started getting caught up on the wiring yesterday, get back on track. I guy had some 20mm shells so I may be updating my taillights

                • #11
                  Love the look of the spoked wheel and the springer front end! Keep up the nice work and the updates coming.
                  2012 Road Star Silverado S

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by D-Fresh View Post

                    Love the look of the spoked wheel and the springer front end! Keep up the nice work and the updates coming.
                    Will do, thanks!
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                    • #13
                      Are the 1600 & the 1700 trans interchangeable & what years.

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                    • #14
                      Originally posted by ItBeMe View Post
                      Are the 1600 & the 1700 trans interchangeable & what years.
                      I'm sure someone can look up the part numbers to find out for sure. From my experience, they appear to be the same. I used the transfer case from the 1600 and it mated up perfectly to the 1700 motor.
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                      • #15
                        I just discovered something today as I was working on it; referring to the three bolts at the rear of the left side where the drive pulley housing attaches to the motor, on the 1600 it takes three M8-1.25 bolts, on the 1700 they went up to M10-1.25. If you are using a 1600 transfer case on a 1700 motor (as I am) you will need to drill out those three holes on the drive pulley housing from 8mm to 10mm. You will also need to get three M10-1.25 x 40mm bolts.
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                            • #18
                              I'll be darksiding Hugo with a vintage hot rod tire. It's a little taller than the stock tire. It's also very square. It will be interesting to see how it handles.

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                              • Spydr
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                                You'll have to practice counter steering.
                                Take your time and be very careful until you get used to that different style tire.
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