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    Without Net Neutrality sites like the RSC could die. We could be shoved so far down the list of search engine results, that no-one will ever find us, because we don't *pay* to stay relevant. Some ISPs could even block us altogether if we don't *pay* them to keep us accessible!

    I mention this because the future of Net Neutrality is at stake and it's important we are *all* heard.

    A a few months back the head of the FCC, Ajit Pai, [a former lawyer for Verizon] tried to kill Net Neutrality in a 3 to 2 vote; even though an overwhelming majority of Americans support Net Neutrality. And that's because ending Net Neutrality would mean *billions* of dollars to internet services providers like Verizon, Comcast and AT&T. In a response, numerous states immediately passed laws to protect Net Neutrality, and now it's being brought up before congress for a national vote; which would stop anyone from trying to kill it once and for all.

    For that reason, it is vitally important we *all* let congress know we want to keep access to the internet equal; so that sites like the RSC can continue to attract new members and stay accessible to everyone!

    Please go to the link below to let your representatives in Washington know you support Net Neutrality:

    Thank you.

    Doc_V
    Congress can use a Resolution of Disapproval to overrule the FCC. We have to make them.
    Last edited by Doc_V; 05-07-2018, 10:36 PM.

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    I’d like to hear the opposing view from a RSC member. I don’t know much about it, but have heard that it may severely limit the small ISPs in rural America.

    “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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    • Doc_V
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      Don't take my word for it, if you're not familiar with it, take a minute to look it up.
      Last edited by Doc_V; 05-07-2018, 11:02 PM.

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    Bet Money it is that Jeff Bezos that own Amazon. The Washington Post , Wholefoods and hell knows what else. He is slowly building an empire to control the whole US and get rid of Trump.
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    • #4
       

      “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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      • #5
         

        “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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        • #6
          Right now, websites & their content are only regulated by the sites themselves.
          If we lose Net Neutrality, websites (including this one) will be censored by the companies running the servers (ISPs) and speeds will be throttled down for non-subscribing sites.
          If your ISP is 100% in line with your personal views & opinions, that will work for you.
          If it's not, expect all content to be restricted to the ISP's personal preferences ... unless you pay extra for the privileged of free access to internet content.

          Right now we all subscribe to access to the internet through our ISP & only bandwidth is (for the most part) regulated based on your subscription.
          Content is mixed to market to the largest subscription revenue possible at all levels (36 channels, 93 channels, 135, etc...).

          If this passes & NN is removed, the cost of running the RSC will skyrocket to remain at the same speed.
          This isn't just about what your ISP decides to feed you, they'll be going after every website for paid access.

          I seriously doubt this place would survive that.
          That would be a real shame after all the work put into saving it.

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            “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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              “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Doc_V View Post
                Without Net Neutrality sites like the RSC could die. We could be shoved so far down the list of search engine results, that no-one will ever find us, because we don't *pay* to stay relevant. Some ISPs could even block us altogether if we don't *pay* them to keep us accessible!

                I mention this because the future of Net Neutrality is at stake and it's important we are *all* heard.

                A a few months back the head of the FCC, Ajit Pai, [a former lawyer for Verizon] tried to kill Net Neutrality in a 3 to 2 vote; even though an overwhelming majority of Americans support Net Neutrality. And that's because ending Net Neutrality would mean *billions* of dollars to internet services providers like Verizon, Comcast and AT&T. In a response, numerous states immediately passed laws to protect Net Neutrality, and now it's being brought up before congress for a national vote; which would stop anyone from trying to kill it once and for all.

                For that reason, it is vitally important we *all* let congress know we want to keep access to the internet equal; so that sites like the RSC can continue to attract new members and stay accessible to everyone!

                Please go to the link below to let your representatives in Washington know you support Net Neutrality:

                Thank you.

                Doc_V
                Trump has been trying to kill Net Neutrality for a while now. A few years ago he had the opposite view on it.

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                • #10
                  https://vittana.org/13-pros-and-cons-of-net-neutrality

                  A view from a hundred feet. I’m not so sure some of the “pros” listed in the article, are things that weren’t already being addressed.

                  There was a lot of discussion about this when when it was being put in place. Big government fans, loved the idea of government getting the authority to pick winners and losers. Big government seemed to embrace the idea of welding a virtual club to fix things many didn’t consider broken, other then those who love bigger government and it’s equality of outcome ideals.
                  I’m not as big a fan of bigger government and the idea big government having more control, is “good”, then some others.

                  Also......and it’s just an observation. There always seems to be underlying agendas behind clever titles like “Affordable Care Act”, and “Net Neutrality”. I’m not sure why it is, other then to obfuscate and confuse. As with the ACA, things implemented because the idea something is supposedly broken and only more government can fix it, should raise eyebrows, Not warm fuzzy feelings.
                  I’ll liken it to wording on ballots for different initiatives politicians wish to impose. On the ballot, the true intent can sometimes be completely camouflaged. What can be stated in a sentence that is easily understood, ends up being two or more paragraphs that takes a law firm to decipher. Often this is on purpose, because if people get to see how the sausage their told will be great is made, it’s not as appetizing.

                  What did we call the federal regulation that that ended in 1987, and was removed from the Federal Register in 2011?

                  ”The Fairness Doctrine”

                  Many think “Net Neutrality”, is little more then the Fairness Doctrine on steroids. There’s a reason it was pushed during the previous administration. An administration that gave us all sorts of well intentioned people like Lois Lerner, for example. An administration that was all about the government creating and equality of outcome, by whatever means were deemed necessary.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by viking View Post

                    Trump has been trying to kill Net Neutrality for a while now. A few years ago he had the opposite view on it.
                    Because what "net neutrality" started out as, is a completely different animal than what is being proposed now. It's all about government control and regulation so they can further control us. All that this will lead to is less investment in internet infrastructure since fixed "all you can eat" pricing will be mandated no matter how much food you eat. How can you expect any business big or small to absorb that? Sure fixed pricing may work initially for the consumer but all it really does is cut investment and improvement in the system, leading to slow speeds and fewer choices. That the Government gets even more control over the Internet is even more troubling.

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                    • #12
                      A part of me feels like this will never work. Even if they siege control, which they already have, let’s be honest, why would they throttle? People won’t like that. They will switch providers. A new provider will disrupt by not throttling and charging low prices, all the companies will have to start offering the same.

                      I dont think its that that big of a deal.

                      It will suck at first. But, over time, it won’t stick.

                      im not saying it’s ok. But, I’m saying that I don’t think it’s going to be a big a deal as people are making it.

                      Saying that, I WILL ALWAYS STAND ON THE SIDE OF NET NEUTRALITY.

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                      • #13
                        Killing net neutrality looks like some big corporations have found a path for legal extortion of smaller businesses, groups and individuals who have websites. "If you wanna play, you got to pay" type of thing. These websites (like this one), could have their bandwidth cut down so far that it makes the site unusable.

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                        • Jaybo
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                          Why would any company do that? They are more concerned with people using massive amounts of bandwidth from Video services like Netflix and Youtube and the like. If you are going to use up far greater amounts of bandwidth than the average Joe looking at this site, you should pay for that. If you don't then companies are not going to invest in upgrading their network and speeds leading to fewer real improvements. The everyone pays the same model is just a socialist ideal that restricts business growth.

                      • #14
                        Without reading anything... since I learned WHO it was that was pushing this entire net neutrality stuff... and it was all coming from the LEFT. I instantly knew that they were lying, and that it was all a buncha leftist contrived BS. Don't buy it. Keep gov't out of it, and let free market, and free enterprise rule the www. As soon as gov't is telling who can do what on the web, you just KNOW that it will no longer be neutral or free. It's another leftist gambit to take control of something they don't already rule!!!

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                        • #15
                          Update......

                          http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...et-neutrality/

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                          • #16
                            I saw that earlier.

                            A little more light on the subject.

                            https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/...net-less-open/

                            https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/...nment-control/

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