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  • Correct Oil Filter, or an ALERT!

    Guys, for years I was a Bosch 3323 oil filter guy. I had read from others, in the past, that they had changed their specs, and that that could fail on our bikes... but, I kept using them!

    Well, just recently, I used them and could tell that 2 of them were not "tightening right," and in BOTH instances, they leaked badly! I had to swap them out.

    I have just now gone to the WIX 3756, as they screw on, and allow me to tighten them to hand grip just right.

    The difference is, visually, that the "right" filter has an indented threaded top in the middle, but the "wrong" filters have a raised threaded top, that is too high to allow the filter to seat and seal.

    Has anyone else found this to be true???

  • #2
    I inspect the Bosch filter before I buy it. Never found a defective one, but others have.

    “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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    • #3
      I very recently bought 2 that would not seal because the threaded portion in the middle of the filter "bottomed out,' and would not allow me to tighten the filter any further... but, the gasket also would not seal. I'm speaking of the Bosch 3323.

      So, I went to an Allied Auto Parts store nearby, which sold the Wix filters, and he showed me the 51356, and the 57356. He told me they were of the same type, but, and it was visible, the 5136 has a convex threaded part that extended outward, while the 57356 has a concave and deeper threaded part. So, I bought the 57356 and it tightened right up nice on my friend's bike, and sealed so as to not leak.

      So, I'm just putting it out there for you all.. if you had been a user of the Bosch 3323, or was thinking you would next time, I would counsel you NOT to, and to consider purchasing the Wix 57356 instead. AND, the Wix was actually a bit cheaper, too!

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      • #4
        I got it right the first time with Wix. It’s all I’ve ever used on anything.

        Under rated, sleeper.



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        • #5
          I don't think it is a defect it is the way it is made on certain Bosch filters. I personally stay away from as many Bosch products that I can. I always felt that they were an inferior cheaply made part supplier with the exception of o2 sensors. And that is only because Bosch is about the only supplier of o2 sensors that most store carry.Bosch 3300 is the filter that I found had the raised thread intentionally and leaks when installed on our bikes. I just get my filters from Yamaha and I know they meet spec and fit proper.

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          • #6
            It's not a defect. Several oil filter companies have switched from from innies to outies. You have to open the box and check before buying. Click image for larger version

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            • #7
              Wix has always made good filters, I try to run them on all my vehicles.



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              • #8
                Fram car filters don’t have this issue. LOl


                Wherever you go in life, ride there if at all possible.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jd750ace View Post
                  Fram car filters don’t have this issue. LOl
                  Pay me now or pay me later!
                  Peace,
                  Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
                  (But you can call me Joe)

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                  • jd750ace
                    jd750ace commented
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                    30 years of using them.

                • #10
                  I use Amzoil filters. The guy that sells the Amzoil also has the filters...

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                  • #11
                    +1 What Grubsie said. I don't think it's isolated to just Bosch. Here's some info on a Triumph site about the same issue: http://www.triumphrat.net/air-cooled...our-bikes.html

                    Maybe I've been lucky and been getting old inventory, but I only had this problem once a few years back, I'd assumed it was a one off bad seal and took it back to the store for a replacement; no prob with the second one.

                    Also, I too use the 3300, not the 3323. From an initial glance, it looks like the 3323 is a few mm longer, so I suppose either would do.

                    Thanks for the heads up Questcap. I'll be sure to pay more attention next time I buy a filter. Will look for concave, not convex.

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                    Apparently they even went with a thicker gasket on the new one to address the issue:

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                    • #12
                      Go with the FLO oil filter and loose the worries behind.
                      You can inspect the contaminants in the oil during oil changes.
                      Duke.
                      Pull it, inspect, clean it, and reuse. One time buy.
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                      • Duke
                        Duke commented
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                        Just clean it and reuse. The stainless steel 35 micron screen is the filtering part. Inspect and then clean it. No buying filter parts.

                      • Questcap
                        Questcap commented
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                        Might aggravate someone, but I NEVER want an oil filter I have to disassemble and clean! And, unless it is also specified to filter out at least 99% of all junk, like the premium spin-ons claim to do, it would not be considered a better filter... maybe they claim 99.9%??? I still wouldn't care... I want to spin 'em off, and throw them away!!! And, horrors, it has an outtie, and not an innie!!! LOL

                      • Questcap
                        Questcap commented
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                        As a further comment... I've just learned that the premium filters, claiming to filter out 99%... they filter down to 20-21 microns. The Flo, at 35 microns, doesn't meet the level of the premium spin-on filters.

                    • #13
                      Originally posted by Duke View Post
                      Go with the FLO oil filter and loose the worries behind.
                      You can inspect the contaminants in the oil during oil changes. Duke.
                      +1 Duke. And I go two or three oil changes between, before looking in the filter.







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                      • #14
                        Grubsie has nailed the point... The guy at Allied Auto Parts brought both out and showed me that innie and outie difference. I'm buying Wix with the innies in the future! seems the 57356 is for a great many Honda automobile models.

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                        • #15
                          Roadstar Oil Filters

                          BOSCH……………………….3300 or 3323 or D3323 Hi Efficiency
                          K&N………………………….KN-303
                          NAPA GOLD………………...1358
                          PUROLATOR……………….ML16817
                          STP…………………………...SDF13
                          WIX…………………………..51358
                          FRAM………………………..6017A
                          HASTINGS…………………..LF-113
                          HI FLO………………………
                          HF-303
                          EMGO……………………….10-82220
                          PER-FORM…………………J-503

                          Mobil1………………………M1MC-134
                          M1…………………………………….110

                          “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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                          • #16
                            Yes, Shores, I've seen, have, that list... but, technically, it's not effective anymore, as some, such as the 3323, now have the outtie threaded part, and the threaded part jams before the gasket can effectively seal, and you get a leak. Like the cause for this thread, the last 2 Bosch 3323's would not seal for that reason.

                            Guys, the oil filter charts we might look at, are merely suggestions, at best, anymore. The current construction of some of these filters will no longer permit us to use them. I was using the 3323 for years... and cannot anymore! If it has an outtie, rather than an innie, you may find that it just will not work on our bikes. Im' just sayin'....

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                            • #17
                              Originally posted by Questcap View Post
                              Yes, Shores, I've seen, have, that list... but, technically, it's not effective anymore, as some, such as the 3323, now have the outtie threaded part, and the threaded part jams before the gasket can effectively seal, and you get a leak. Like the cause for this thread, the last 2 Bosch 3323's would not seal for that reason.

                              Guys, the oil filter charts we might look at, are merely suggestions, at best, anymore. The current construction of some of these filters will no longer permit us to use them. I was using the 3323 for years... and cannot anymore! If it has an outtie, rather than an innie, you may find that it just will not work on our bikes. Im' just sayin'....
                              I’ve been using the Bosch 3323 on my Roadstar and Vulcan for the last four or so oil changes with no problems. Maybe I’m getting a different batch.

                              “The West is the Best" - Jim Morrison

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                              • #18
                                Switch to the K&N. Never had a problem and my local O'Reilly's usually has them in stock.
                                Peace,
                                Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
                                (But you can call me Joe)

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                                • #19
                                  Well, I've already made my switch... The Wix is black, and is actually less costly then the Bosch. They're a good filter... or certainly was. Years back, Consumer Reports did an engine oil and filter test on a fleet of NYC cabs and cop cars. I don't recall much about it, but the Wix filter was the best tested filter at that time. It's been so long now though, I don't believe those results have any bearing on anything anymore, but... it's all I have to go one! So, what oil are you all using??? JUST KIDDING!!!

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                                  • #20
                                    I have never even heard of WIX before. I have been using K&N filters on my bikes for many years.
                                    If i remember right, the filters that walmart sells cheap, ( I don't remember the brand name, but I think it was a blue box) had the same innie and outie problema couple years ago
                                    owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death, it is much more important than that

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