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    Seems like I remember reading on the old clinic site about using a double clutch spring as a cheap alternative to a Barnett kit. I have a spare clutch (with a bad basket) and was thinking about doing this. I thought first however that I would ask here and see if I remembered this right before I did it. If so, would it be #25 in the attached schematic? any tips or advice would be appreciated.
    2004 Yamaha Road Star Midnight XV17AMS Parts at BikeBandit.com. The Web's most trusted source for 2004 Yamaha Road Star Midnight XV17AMS OEM Parts.
    owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death, it is much more important than that

  • #2
    Think about it like this, An EBC spring is 15% heavier than stock, Barrnett is probably around 25% heavier. You are talking about 2 sum what worn springs being 75-85% heavier when used together. IMO not only would the pull be ridiculous but the clutch cable and throwout bearing would be under tremendous pressure that neither was made to endure. It was Erbman that did it and he ended up with a bad throwout bearing. If I remember correctly he also didn't use a dbl R* spring. He piggybacked it with a smaller diaphragm spring from another Yamaha but I don't remember what model Yamaha it was.

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    • BubbaKahuna
      BubbaKahuna commented
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      I seem to remember it being a Virago 920 or something like that.
      I wouldn't do it. I have the EBC in mine with over 20k miles & it's holding strong.

      The stock pull measured at the end of the clutch lever was 12# on mine.
      After installing the EBC is was still 12# but grabbed much better.

  • #3
    That’s all I needed to know to convince me not to do it. Thanks Dave
    owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death, it is much more important than that

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    • Spydr
      Spydr commented
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      Cike, I have a brand new OEM diaphragm spring, if you want to stay stock. I bought all new clutch parts, but didn't use the spring because I went with a Barnett instead.

  • #4
    If you need a clutch spring I posted a thread a couple days ago with an aftermarket Barnett style spring.
    https://www.roadstarclinic.com/forum...utch-on-amazon

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    • #5
      The EBC is some $52 on eBay. I bought one, and problem solved. It's been at least 3 or 4 years now, and the clutch pull feels the same, whether it's 15% or 20% heavier, whatever... I can't feel any harder pull at the handle with it. And, totally, FWIW, I didn't replace the gasket, but went with a gasket making goop in a tube... followed the directions, and it sealed perfectly for far less than the price of a gasket.

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      • #6
        I had a bad throw out bearing in my Barnett...replaced with the upgraded 7003B...asked the company which way it goes...followed what the girl on the phone said. Instantly grenade when pulled in the first time. Had to chase 11 ball bearings out of the crankcase....lots of fun.....

        just buy the Barnett and make sure it has the good side load 7003b bearing
        LET'S RIDE

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        • cike
          cike commented
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          how do you know which one has the 7003B bearing? different model number?

      • #7
        thanks guys, I don't really need one. I was just kinda looking for an upgrade to do, to give me something to tinker with.
        owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death, it is much more important than that

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        • davej
          davej commented
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          If you just want to tinker with it pull the clutch cover off, clean and polish it and reassemble. That'll give Ya something to tinker with for an hr or 2. lol

        • Spydr
          Spydr commented
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          Just say NO to Tinkeritis, Cike! You Can Do it Man!
          Fight... The... Urge...

      • #8
        Will not work. Nope.
        Just get the Barnett pressure plate with multiple springs. You will be happy.

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        • Spydr
          Spydr commented
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          He doesn't need it. He just posed the question to give us something to talk about. Nobody's posting much since we've been on the new site.

      • #9
        looks like some of these are stamped part number 511-90-1002 and some are stamped SR-2 (old SR-2) which I am assuming is the old part number. Which one is the better kit? Why?
        owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death, it is much more important than that

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        • #10
          I think it is the same part.

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