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    Someone's gonna get someone else killed
    2018 Kawasaki Concours 14
    straight roads are for fast bikes, curves are for fast riders.

  • #2
    Stupid is as stupid does.
    Peace,
    Baron Wilhelm Gustav von Schmidt III
    (But you can call me Joe)

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    • #3
      i work with a 70 year old that still thinks the rear brakes are the best to use. i think it was that generation and/or the brake technology at the time.

      but yes. pretty frickin dumb
      my Wallet is Getting dangerously close to spontaneous combustion

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      • #4
        Ha ha. Sheesh. I love comments like the, “I’ve been riding for 40 years so I know what I’m doing”.

        Well, you’ve probably been putzing around for 40 years and you’ve been doing it wrong the whole time. Truth hurts

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        • #5
          See Preston. It’s like the conversation we had by the pool a few days ago. I don’t have social media. Because if I did and I saw stuff like this, I would get sucked into the “arguing with an idiot over the Internet”. Waste of precious time. And it would just make me look like more of an idiot for doing so.

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          • Messer2.0
            Messer2.0 commented
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            Im starting to listen to what you say and actually use your advice. I said my piece and I'm stopping

          • Deerkiller
            Deerkiller commented
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            Ha ha. Did you comment on whatever media that came from?

        • #6
          Yikes! I was going to respond, but............

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          • roadiemort
            roadiemort commented
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            You can join the conversation on RSC FACEBOOK lol.

          • TimB
            TimB commented
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            Well some people can & some can't

        • #7
          One of the things we had to do in the safety course is lock up the rear wheel at 20-30 mph and steer to a stop. If the bike is leaning of course that won't work so we were also taught that if an emergency stop comes up in a curve to get the bike up straight first, if possible.

          I told a friend about steering with the rear wheel locked up and it actually saved him from running into the side of a car that pulled out in front of him.
          Scott B.

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          • Messer2.0
            Messer2.0 commented
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            But dont use the rear just to slow

          • texasscott1
            texasscott1 commented
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            You're right. For just slowing it's much easier to grab the lever to just slow down. Most of the time though just letting off the throttle will slow these bikes down fairly fast.

          • Messer2.0
            Messer2.0 commented
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            I dont own a roadstar

        • #8
          Back in school, the shop teacher told us the difference in braking from front to rear on a car is around 60/40. Why are you always replacing front pads more than the rears? Front end does more braking. He never said anything about bikes but for me and pretty much any biker out there, the front end does more of the stopping. I had my Intruder for many years. Replaced the front pads 4 times in the time I had it. The rears once. Oh, and before anyone says anything, On my 1999 1400 Intruder, the front and rear disk brake pads are the same part number!!!
          "Do or do not, there is no try."

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          • thebarbarian
            thebarbarian commented
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            And that's why there are TWO disks on the front.

        • #9
          Just try braking with FRONT only, and then REAR only. Front only will get you to a stop far shorter, and any effort to match a front only stop with the rear will only result in a rear wheel lock up, and a loss of much control. Learning to use both, with a heavy bias to the front, and a far lighter use of the rear, is by far your best stop. Some practice with some panic stopping, so as to learn NOT to stomp on the rear pedal can be a real life saver... you can squeeze on the front about as hard as you can, and you're not likely to do a front endo, or lock it up on a R*. I've just not known our front brakes to be anywhere near that strong and grabby. The rear WILL lock, and you want to train some, and learn to not ever do that in a panic situation. I've had 2 actual panic situations where I did commence to lock the rear, but was able to adequately release each time, so as to maintain control, and safely maneuver around the hazard just presented before me in both instances. Those experiences just don't go away... you don't forget them, and you get to 'relive' then anytime you want!

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          • #10
            time to revisit this little video lol

            https://youtu.be/1A3b_MRimbk
            my Wallet is Getting dangerously close to spontaneous combustion

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            • #11
              Originally posted by Smokescreens View Post
              i work with a 70 year old that still thinks the rear brakes are the best to use. i think it was that generation and/or the brake technology at the time.

              but yes. pretty frickin dumb
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              I guess if it was good enough for Captain America...

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              • #12
                Bikerron... Don't know why you think it was getting out of hand... nobody's linked front and rear on a Road Star that I can recall in more than 11 years of membership here, and the sensors, plumbing, and cost of linking up a system is probably not within anyone's budget here either. Some wise words on proper braking with the front and rear systems we DO have on all our Road Stars strikes me as totally relevant to the thread. Now, on the other hand, I have this Harvard Foosball table I'm wanting to set up and level, but one of the legs has a broken foot screw-in component, and I really need to find a new one.........

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                • Bikerron
                  Bikerron commented
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                  On FB, where this originated, they were going nuts.

              • #13
                It only takes a proportioning valve to link the brakes. Probably $35

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                • #14
                  The one feature of my F6B that I absolutely hate is the linked brakes. It’s stupid to control half of the front with what is supposed to be the rear brake pedal. Not worth the effort to unlink them and make it like it’s supposed to be. Still hate it though.

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                  • Messer2.0
                    Messer2.0 commented
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                    I never link mine lol also never use the traction control or eco mode

                • #15
                  never heard of linked brakes on a bike before , would bloody hate it !!!

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                  • #16
                    Goldwings have had linked brakes for years, work very well.

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                    • Deerkiller
                      Deerkiller commented
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                      Disagree. But to each their own

                  • #17
                    My 83 GW had linked brakes, or was supposed to have. I bought it used in 05, and didn't perceive a problem with braking for quite a while, but then one day I had it on the centre stand, spun the rear wheel and discovered that the rear brake didn't work at all! It didn't even slow the spinning wheel.
                    I found that the rear brake line near the caliper was full of hardened mud. I poked a wire into the line and cleared it and it took a lot of flushes to clean it out . I should have just replaced it.
                    Anyway, the whole time I didn't have a rear brake, I didn't even notice although I don't recall ever having to "panic" stop. The two front discs did the job.

                    Peter
                    Cool Air, Warm Sun, A Winding Road and a Motorcycle

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                    • Tykes_Place
                      Tykes_Place commented
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                      How was the braking after you got the rear working?

                    • Peter G
                      Peter G commented
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                      It has been too many years but as I recall 'control' wasn't affected much, but the stopping distance was reduced. With my "R" I use both brakes and once I'm within 10 feet or so of the planned stopping point and moving at a walking pace, I lay off the front brake a bit to avoid a "nose dive" when I come to a halt. i'm glad to say I haven't had a "panic" stop with the "R" but I've had to brake hard a few times due to wildlife (usually deer) on the road ahead. The bike tracks nice and straight under hard braking.

                  • #18
                    Want dumb? Go over & read the center stand thread, now that's dumb!

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                    • #19
                      I don’t know how people on here feel about engine braking in tandem with regular braking, but it gives me a safe feeling and a quick slow down when I need it. I know it can get hairy for some if they aren’t good with rev matching. It’s saved me a time or two when a car ahead decides to stop at the last moment during a yellow light.

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                      • Deerkiller
                        Deerkiller commented
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                        Indeed. Rev matching a downshift while braking is an important skill to have. Unless you have one of these new fangled sport bikes with an auto blipper. Takes the skill out of it but a human being isn’t capable of doing it as fast and as well for sure.

                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Leadkrm View Post
                      I don’t know how people on here feel about engine braking in tandem with regular braking, but it gives me a safe feeling and a quick slow down when I need it. I know it can get hairy for some if they aren’t good with rev matching. It’s saved me a time or two when a car ahead decides to stop at the last moment during a yellow light.
                      The whole idea of stopping fast is to apply as much braking front AND rear just to the point where the tires don’t break loose. If you’re not careful, down shifting with rear braking can cause the rear tire to break loose. It’s much easier for me to apply fine and graded control with brakes only.

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