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  • Quick question for oil change

    I am having a hell of a time removing the oil drain bolt by the shifter. The head is rounding. Can I take out the one by the rear right side passenger floorboard and get enough oil out to change it?

  • #2
    There is someone on here that only changes the oil using one drain. He said he just changes it more frequently. BUT, that bolt is a PITA. Get it out and replace it with a drain plug from Auto Zone. For some reason a 17mm doesn't quite fit on that drain plug. The rear drain plug is fine, also a 17mm. You may have to use a hacksaw blade or a dremel to cut a slot in the forward drain plug and get something in there to un-screw it. Then Auto Zone has several options. One has a true 17mm head and one has a 15mm head and a standard open end wrench works on both of them.
    It's not that life is so short, it's just that you're dead for so long.---unknown.

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    • YZ18
      YZ18 commented
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      I have replacement bolts already. Not enough room to unscrew it if I was able to cut a slot.

  • #3
    Easy as pie... Stubby 17mm box end/open end wrench.... Fits fine never ever an issue BUT if someone else gets in there (like previous owner) then it could be in bad shape
    LET'S RIDE

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    • #4
      I have said wrench and I am the only owner of the bike since new.

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      • roadiemort
        roadiemort commented
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        The thickness of the box end is customizable with a grinder if need be, some wrenches fit good some not so good.

    • #5
      The crankcase drain plug is a PITA to get to for sure. I have to jack up the bike to get enough room to even get the 17 mm box end wrench on it. A 12 pt box end will let you get enough swing to break it free but if its rounded at all then you're going to need a 6 point box end wrench which most likely won't give you enough swing to actually get the wrench on the bolt head. Maybe a 6 point short socket with a piece of 3/8" square stock in the ratchet drive end will let you put a open end wrench on the sq. stock it to break it free.

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      • #6
        I cut off a 17mm with a dremel for clearance, works great.

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        • davej
          davej commented
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          Now you have both a stubby 17mm box wrench and a stubby 17mm open end wrench. Modified specific use tools are a must in every tool box.

      • #7
        I replaced mine with one I purchased off of Amazon a few years back. It is SS and has a magnet to pick up the metal pieces. (So far it has been clean every time I change the oil)

        The best part of it is it has a 14mm head instead of a 17mm head, which makes it a lot easier to remove. I believe the oil plug size is 14mm x 1.5.

        Good luck and ride safe.

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        • YZ18
          YZ18 commented
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          I saw those before I bought OEM replacements. Good to know it works well and will keep it for future consideration.

      • #8
        Jack the bike up as high as you feel comfortable and strap it down snugly. Then take a cold chisel and a hammer and use that to turn the drain bolt counterclockwise by letting the cold chisel cut into the edge of the bolt head. Once it breaks loose, you are home free probably by using your fingers.

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        • YZ18
          YZ18 commented
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          I have seen a couple of videos on that.

        • roadiemort
          roadiemort commented
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          If you use this method make sure the angle you hold the chisel at is not too perpendicular to the bolt as you could break the cast housing if you wack it too hard too direct.
          Last edited by roadiemort; 05-17-2021, 11:15 PM. Reason: Three Monkeys

        • Duke
          Duke commented
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          As what roadiemort said: be careful, I have heard horror stories about that.

      • #9
        YZ18 during my clutch spring change out, this is what came out of my tank and engine. Near the same amount. I would get that bolt off and replace.

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        • YZ18
          YZ18 commented
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          I bought 2 replacements.

        • Jclevesque
          Jclevesque commented
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          Right on!

      • #10
        I don't want to chisel it off if I don't have to. My dad has a few easy off sets that I am going to try first.

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        • YZ18
          YZ18 commented
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          Thanks. That's good to know Jclevesque

        • Jclevesque
          Jclevesque commented
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          Just make sure you have a good sharp one to dig in.

        • roadiemort
          roadiemort commented
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          And the right size so you don't snap it off.

      • #11
        i used a 17mm ring spanner and a small tire iron, using the iron between the frame and the spanner keeping loads pressure on the spanner forcing it on the bolt head, did the trick

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        • Chooch
          Chooch commented
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          Smart! That's the way to do it. In Texas we would use a box wrench instead of a ring spanner. HaHa.

      • #12
        Originally posted by YZ18 View Post
        I don't want to chisel it off if I don't have to. My dad has a few easy off sets that I am going to try first.
        You won’t chisel off the bolt head, you will just loosen the bolt so you can then wrench it out.

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        • #13
          As said I also cut a 17 mm open end box wrench and no issues, w/o lifting bike ,I tap it with a rubber mallet to loosen and WALA...now if it's rounded jack that bike up use a pair of vise grips to loosen it off then replace with a new bolt...patience which I'm short of and a couple

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          • #14
            SUCCESS!! I was able to get a 6 point 17mm wrench on it, tapped it with a small sledgehammer and it broke loose. So relieved that it didn't get worse. Putting a new bolt in and hope to not have this issue again. Thanks everybody for your help.

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            • #15
              I replaced mine with a magnetic bolt. I needed the additional aggravation of looking at and wiping off the metal dust.

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              • #16
                Now just waiting for the oil to SLOWLY be added. I tried to bump the starter to take some. It has only taken 1/4 of a quart.

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                • #17
                  Originally posted by YZ18 View Post
                  Now just waiting for the oil to SLOWLY be added. I tried to bump the starter to take some. It has only taken 1/4 of a quart.
                  Are you talking about adding the required 4 quarts of oil to the engine? If so, just add 2 quarts to the oil tank, replace the dipstick, run the engine for 10 seconds and add the other two. It's that simple. if you don't run the engine you will never get four quarts in since the oil pump needs to be turned to transfer oil from tank to engine. Don't even check it until you change the oil again since the dipstick is notoriously inaccurate and these engines do not consume or drip oil.

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                  • YZ18
                    YZ18 commented
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                    Pardon if I don't know exactly, is that just down the tube where the dip stick is? If so mine fills pretty quickly but takes time to drain into the bike. Is that a problem?

                • #18
                  Originally posted by YZ18 View Post
                  Pardon if I don't know exactly, is that just down the tube where the dip stick is? If so mine fills pretty quickly but takes time to drain into the bike. Is that a problem?
                  Yes, just put it down the tube where the dipstick is. It will only hold two quarts until you start the engine for a few seconds and then it will hold another 2 quarts. The oil pump will transfer the first two quarts from the tank to the engine. You're not going to hurt anything by running the engine for 10 or 15 seconds.

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                  • YZ18
                    YZ18 commented
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                    Ok but I can't get it to take 1 quart quickly. Why would that be? I have to add a little at a time and play the waiting game for it to go down.

                • #19
                  Originally posted by YZ18 View Post
                  Ok but I can't get it to take 1 quart quickly. Why would that be? I have to add a little at a time and play the waiting game for it to go down.
                  Did you pull both plugs from the bottom of the engine? One is at the front left for the engine and one is at the back right for the oil tank to net a total of four quarts drained. You asked about draining oil from the bolt near the passenger footrest. I hope you didn't just drain the transfer case oil which has a plug on the side versus the oil tank plug which is on the bottom of the engine on the right rear. You're scaring me boy you're scaring me!

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                  • #20
                    All good now.

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